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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    The subject is a tricky one: Generosity guilt. If we share the wealth with our grown children in the here and now, do we risk doing them more harm than good? Do we do more harm than good by indulging them–and ourselves–in making life easier for them?

                           

    It's a question we were hashing out with friends where we were house-guests at their home on a lake in a development where the neighbors tend expansive lawns and mind lush rose gardens. Both our friends are recently divorced from their previous spouses. Paying the bills for the lakeside house–its dock, two boats, swimming pool, six bedrooms and huge windows overlooking the lake–is not a problem for either of them. Moreover, they have the money to travel–for pleasure and to visit their grown children who live in various cities throughout the country.

    His three children are recent college grads feeling their way career-wise. He is mum on how he does or doesn't help them. Not so her. She bubbles over with fears that she is overindulging her two daughters who are in their late 20s and early 30s and not living anywhere near the level their parents eventually achieved.

    "I feel guilty," she says of her willingness to give her daughters (both of whom have small children and husbands) money, treats and other indulgences whenever they ask or she feels they need them. "I'm a terrible patsy," she says, while her current partner nods in emphatic agreement. "I'm an endless stream of money for them." At the same time, she confesses to worrying about their psychological health. "I feel guilty that I enable them to be dependent on me. I don't make them stand on their own two feet. It wouldn't hurt them to be self reliant, but it gets complicated."

    One of her daughters has what the mom calls "a black cloud that follows her"–a child needed surgery and there were medical bills over and above insurance; a mistake was made when starting a business and it required cash to rectify. "She's under a lot of stress," says my friend. "I worry about her mental state. If I can relieve her stress by helping her financially, I want to do it." That said, she would like her daughters to distinguish between I need and I want. And to feel less "entitled." When shopping with one of her daughters, the two of them saw necklaces the daughter liked. "She wanted two of them," the mother says, adding that she put her foot down, sort of. "I told her no, just one." 

    Her desire to indulge her children is mixed with few rules over how far the giving should go. The indulgence argument is simple: She has more than enough money to take care of herself. "I get to do everything I want. I have not said 'no' to myself on anything," she says. "Why make my children miserable for lack of money when they're going to get it anyway?"

    Being guilty about being generous is awkward–a conflict in competing values, a feeling of ambivalence about which value should take precedence. This lack of clarity is a point Gretchen Rubin makes in a post on PsychCentral  when she writes about wanting to do one thing but wanting something else that conflicts with it. Two of her examples: I want to eat healthfully; it’s wrong to waste any food. I want leisure time when I come home from work; I want to live in a house that’s clean and well-run. "These days," Rubin writes, "when I’m trying to get myself to pursue some course of
    action, I work hard to make sure I know exactly what I expect from
    myself, and why, and what value I’m choosing to serve."

    Generosity guilt is certainly a push and pull between two values–and which one wins out depends on a whole lot of other values: does a grown child need support because he or she is doing work that helps others but doesn't pay very well? If we value such work, we might chose to enable our child to continue doing it and not suffer the consequence of living within low-income means. A similar reasoning applies to paying college bills or support during graduate school. And if a grandchild needs medical care not covered by insurance, doesn't it make sense to cover those bills that would otherwise stress the parent, our child? On the other hand, two necklaces versus one or even none is a different value.

    There's another way to look at the guilt side of generosity guilt: As a manifestation of helicopter parenting.

    The question Eli Finkel and Grainne Fitzsimons
    pose in a New York Times story,
    "When Helping Hurts" is on point for those of us who help our grown children financially. 
    "How can we help our children achieve their goals without undermining
    their sense of personal accountability and motivation to achieve them?"

    Their answer, based on research they have reviewed, is a pretty
    solid guide to those of us like my friend who worry about the complications of generosity guilt:
    "…Our help has to be responsive to
    the recipient’s circumstances: it must balance their need for support
    with their need for competence. We should restrain our urge to help
    unless the recipient truly needs it, and even then, we should calibrate
    it to complement rather than substitute for the recipient’s efforts."

     

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    A friend and i have this conversation almost every time we meet for coffee. We are both still working–me part time, she full time. We have other projects we'd like to attack but work pressures get in the way. We both admit that part of why we continue to toil away is the money. Not that we need the cash to survive or even live well: we've both got adequate retirement nest eggs and pensions. Rather, we like the extra money so we can spend it on our grown kids.

    It is a luxury to be able to do things to help them out–she likes paying the daycare tab for her grandtwins to make sure they are going to the best possible facility. I like sensing a need and providing for it–be it summer camp for a grandchild or a cleaning lady. [My story on Great Gifts for Grown Kids is on nextave.org.] Our paycheck feels like a windfall that we're free to share–no questions asked by our spouses or household partners.

    At least this is what we tell each other–and possibly ourselves. It is, of course, more complicated than that and we're hardly alone in staying on the job past the "normal" retirement year. In 2005, 20 percent of all middle-aged parents were the primary source
    of financial support for a grown child. Now, 27 percent of parents fit
    that description, according to a recent Pew Research report:

    As I've noted in previous posts, the recession/sluggish recovery is part of the reason we are helping out our kids–it has taken a huge toll out of the earnings of young adults. In 2010, according to the U.S. Census, the share of young adults who were employed was
    the lowest it had been since the government started collecting these
    data in 1948. Moreover, from 2007 to 2011 those young adults who were
    employed full time experienced a greater drop in average weekly earnings
    than any other age group.

    So we soldier on. But supporting our kids–whether as an indulgence or to carry them through hard time–is only part of the reason we're still on the job. A lot of us are in better health than our counterparts a couple of decades earlier–and we may live longer. In which case, we like the idea of piling up the resources–or letting the piled-up resources lie there untouched while we use the still-on-the-job earnings for spending sprees. We don't want to outlive our nest eggs and be a burden to those whose loads we've just helped lighten. Or is that part of the indulgence factor? 

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    There's a lot of griping about us out there. Grown children writing in to the Carolyn Hax's, Ask Amy's and Social Q's of this world, whining about the way we behave or the unkind or ungracious things we say. Sometimes, we may mean one thing, but it gets taken another way. The world is full of mis-cues.

     I was struck by this one, described by a grown son complaining about the way his mother talks to his wife. The issue: The Mother keeps making critical remarks about the son's wife, who is a pediatrician and the mother of small children. The Mother is critical about such things as the Halloween costumes (They're store bought!), help being hired to clean the house ("It is a real shame that people can't take the time to clean their own home anymore.") and dinners not made from scratch ("It isn't a homemade dinner if the chicken came precooked from a store.")

    Who would like to have those kinds of comments rain down on your head when you're working full time and raising children? Or even if you're not working outside the home. Carolyn Hax suggests the son have a conversation with his Mother that lets her know that when she makes these comments she denigrates his life choices and that when she compares his family life to the one she created as a young mother, she's "entering cats in a dog show." Hax also points out that the Mom might be defensive about the way she lived her life–that she may feel like an anachronism–and may need reassurance.

    All true and all helpful. I see an additional point. Many of us may take to the snark attack when we feel left out–unconsulted, tuned out, useless. There are better ways to work out those feelings. I'm not sure what they are–but giving in to attacks isn't helpful. Nonetheless, the Mother has some of my sympathy. We're there but we're not; we understand the pressure of their family-raising lives but good luck getting that understanding across. We're not as out-of-it as they may think. But when we impose our own Good Housekeeping Rules–well, see notes to self [in the column to the left]: Our ideas about how to do things "the right way"are better left unspoken. Who really cares who made the Halloween costume, anyway? My kids had to pull together their own looks. As for the store-rotisseried chicken–we'd starve at my house if those were eliminated. My mother, however, would be aghast. And she would probably let me know it. Cue up another mis-cue.

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    I had lunch with a friend  who was worried sick about her
    college-senior son. Her complaint: He is directionless and unable to take action to
    get a job. Not only hasn't he signed up with his college's job-search office or applied to opportunities his mother has suggested or unearthed. He hasn't even written a resume–no less let his parents review it for him.

               

    His post-grad plans, such as they are, include living in an apartment with his current roommate–a chemical engineering major–who landed a high-paying job with a corporation. How will he pay the rent? his mother asked. "He told me his roommate might help him out for a few months," the mom says, clucking her tongue and getting angry all over again.

    It's scary. College days–and the comparative irresponsibility of those years–are coming to an end. Reality needs to be faced. When she was his age, this mom says, "I knew no help would be coming from my parents. I was on my own. You can bet I had a job by the time I graduated."

    These years when our
    children are "emerging adults" are tricky ones. A lot of "tough love" v. "helping hand" decisions are suddenly upon us. Job  hunting is no one's idea of a good time. My friends older son, who graduated from a top liberal arts college, is still struggling to find a "career" job. He's taking himself off to graduate school next year–he sees that as the only way to get ahead in his field. His younger brother can't help but know how tough it's going to be out there. A good athlete and student, he seems almost unnerved by having to try his wings in an arena where he doesn't know if he'll be "good" or not. 

    Mother and son are barely speaking at this point. The dad's job has
    taken him out of the country for long stretches so she feels she is on
    her own in guiding this talented but un-ambitious son.

    I try to
    reassure her that he will grow out of his lackadaisical style, that he will figure things out.  [I've written this post on the outgrowing phenomenon.] That's what a growing body of
    literature suggests will happen. For my friend in the eye of the storm, it's hard to keep any perspective about eventual growth and growing up. Not when so many of her son's friends have done so already.

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    I was obsessed with the Boston Marathon-Watertown attacks. Followed the hour-to-hour headlines the first few days. When the action moved to Watertown on Thursday night and lock-down Friday, that changed. I became a live-action addict as police cars were spotted moving toward some sort of end game. Me and millions of others.

    I had an additional reason for my addiction: A grown child–Alpha daughter and her family–lives on a street that's on the Watertown border.  Her emails were, as Uber son put it on his Facebook posting, "like a postcard from the edge of civilization."

    The first one on Friday morning: "A minute ago, Tao started barking her alarm bark,
    and we looked out the window … to see a lone man crossing Mt. Auburn St.
    (Belmont Ave.) wearing a hoodie and a baseball cap. … Kind of weird. Weird
    that anyone would wear that right now. We decided he was bigger than the fugitive.
    However Tao is on alert by the window. Our neighbor, who just graduated from Rindge, was
    on the wrestling team with the guy (the younger brother) and said he was really
    nice, everybody liked him. Madness…"

    Her brother called her to say that if she could find a way to do it, she
    should bundle the family in the car and drive to his house–2.5 hours
    to the west. She couldn't, of course. A few hours later on Facebook she posted this:

    "Police helicopter hovering over the house &
    police lining the street at the end of the block, swat team in church — we
    live on the Watertown line. Not sure when dog walking will be possible."

    I was filled with nervous energy all day. There she was in a house that, it turned out, was nine streets away from the boat where Dzhokhar was shocked and awed out of his hiding. The town diner where swat teams assembled and police hung out–an easy walk from her house, one we take all the time when we visit.

    We were all flooded with relief when the end finally came. For the country, for Boston, for Watertown–and on a more personal level, for my own little family. When our children are in the slightest bit of danger, our tiger-bear fur ruffles up. But the cubs are grown up, living their lives, managing this difficult experience without our help. It's their experience, not ours. They were under seige, not us.

    And yet I still feel the need to vent, to bore friends with the "close call," such as it was. To show them the maps and point out where Alpha daughter lives, where the shootout was, where the boat was housed in a backyard–so close to her house and yet far enough away. I don't want to inflict my worries on my daughter–even in hindsight. But that doesn't make them go away. So I'm unloading on friends and on my blog. Does no harm. My silver lining: how bro and sis reached out to each other in a time of stress–and not with a heavy hand.

    There's at least one person I know who shares my unease. A co-worker says his daughter, a graduate student in Boston, was
    walking from Brookline toward the Marathon finish line when the bombs went off. "She was too far off to see anything, but it was a close call nonetheless," he tells me. I understand. So far and yet so near.

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    We've all read or heard stories–or experienced the real thing–about college grads (or even older kids) moving back home. Thank you Great Recession and the Oh-So-Slow Recovery.

    But that's only part of the re-nesting story. As I've written in a previous post, having our adult children live on their own after college is a socio-economic and cultural phenomenon. In many other countries (first world and otherwise), it's accepted as the norm that the kids will live at home until they marry. And for good reason: When they have a job, they can save money for their future connubial adventure or to invest in an entrepreneurial dream.

                All of this is the long way around reporting about a formula I came across recently: How much a stay with mom and dad is worth. The logarithm factors in the usual stuff–rent and food, as well as the other perks of living at home, such as having an Internet connection and cellphone paid by the parents and having laundry done by the host (usually, the hostess.)The findings? I'll let The Calculator tell it:

    "I wish I’d lived in my parents’ basement the last four years. I’d be $85,000 richer. That would put me in down payment [on a condo] territory already…. Instead, I wasted all my money on rent, food, and TV."

    Our hero kept a detailed spreadsheet of everything he spent in his four post-college-grad years living at home and used that journal to create, as he puts it, "a breakdown of the money I washed away."

     

    Want to know what you're host-home is worth to your grown kid? You can go to the “living with your parents
    calculator and plug in rent and other expenses (or use The Calculator's estimates of his spending habits) and see how much your grown child would save in four years of living in his or her old room at your house. Hint: The Calculator assumes you'll pay for car insurance and put him or her on your health insurance and that the money saved from living at home would be invested to earn a return.

    Bottom line: Re-nesting is worth a sizable nest egg for them. For us, it's a less monetary formula: A chance to experience quality and quantity time with them. Fortune and fortunate tied up in one small bedroom. 

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    In the annals of family gift-giving, I scored a home run recently: I
    gave my daughter—a grown child who already has 1 husband, 1 child, 1 dog, 1
    highly competitive job and 1 small house — the gift of once-a-fortnight housecleaning
    service.

     Not that I barged in with the present virtually wrapped in
    cheery gift paper.  I was, in fact, wary
    of presenting her with a gift that she might take as criticism of her and her
    spouse’s housekeeping skills. So I asked before I gave and I framed it this
    way: Given all the demands on her time, I didn’t see why she should use
    precious energy vacuuming, dusting and scouring her house when help was
    available—help that I could make happen.  

    Reader, she did not take umbrage—she was thrilled. She had
    been thinking about it herself and trying to figure out a way to stretch her
    tight budget to cover the cost.

    Score
    one for parents looking for gifts that can delight as well as help their grown
    children—whether that child is struggling financially or could use the boost of
    a little indulgence.

    I stumbled into my unusual present, but others have
    given gift-giving more thought and come up with  presents that their grown children have really appreciated. The seven brilliant ideas of others are listed in my article on NextAvenue, the PBS Web site for baby boomers–everything the 50+ set is dealing with.

    You can check them out there: "8 Gifts Your Grown Children Will Truly Appreciate." They range from paying off some of their debts–as in, a year's worth of monthly car payments–to providing meals when a new-born baby arrives to opening a Roth IRA retirement account for them.

    Go forth and give non-gadgets.

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    One of my children–he shall go nameless–was a mess as an adolescent: a mess in the sense that his clothes (clean and dirty) littered the floor; his school papers (due and past due) lay in disarray on his desk [this was the pre-computer era] and his organizational skills were low to none.

    None of that is true today. Was it something we the parents did? Not to hear Carl Pickhardt, the psychologist who specializes in adolescence, tell it. "It never ceases to amaze parents, who have long since given
    up urging adolescent reform, to see that young person go through a
    positive growth reversal, often in young adulthood, and suddenly give up
    bad habits or correct wayward ways," he writes in a blog post, "Positive Adolescent Growth Reversals in Young Adulthood."

    So the good news for us as our children come through the Emerging Adult stage is that much of the adolescence annoyances will fade and be replaced by their opposite: careless to careful, messy to neat, disorganized to orderly, scattered to focused, and–my favorite on Pickhardt's list–aimless to directed.

    What accounts for this breath of fresh air–and feeling we've done a good enough parenting job that our child is set up to succeed at living an independent life? Pickhardt's take: onset of maturity, loss of the need to rebel,
    life-course correction, and actualizing a parental imprint. (So we had a role, after all.)
    It is not a one-way street–this reversal thing. When our kids reach their 30s, Pickhardt tells us, they describe growth reversals in their parents. They find we've mellowed
    out, don’t worry so much and are not so easily upset. They report we're more
    patient and less controlling, even laid back. We're fun to be around! We are not, in short, like we were when they were growing up. "It’s amazing," Pickhardt observes, "how the shedding of parental responsibility, with all its attendant
    stress and worries, can relax older folks around adult children who now
    have children of their own."

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    We worry about them. We get angry at them. Our grown children sometimes do things that disappoint, exorcise or frustrate us. And then, all of a sudden, they're there when we need them. They're the caring, mature, responsible people we always knew–hoped–they would be.

    Two friends just went through difficult experiences. What struck me was how incredibly helpful, caring and mature their grown children were when it really, really counted.      

                     Here's what happened to Lucy. She and her 30-something son were hiking in Yosemite Park in California–a four day hike with overnight stays at refuges. Lucy's in great shape, though she worried that she hadn't done a big hike like this for nearly 20 years, when she'd done it with her husband. Her husband died recently so she and her son were hiking to a meadow in Yosemite to sprinkle his ashes. A hike with a purpose. Day one, 9 miles to the tent campsite. Day two, even longer and hillier. Day three was a "rest day" since day four would be the longest and most challenging part of the hike–and the spot where the ashes would be scattered. Lucy and her son decided to pack their books and spend the "rest" day at a lake that was a 3-mile climb from the refuge hut. When they got there, Lucy stepped out on a rock to get a better view. The rock was surprisingly–shockingly–slippery. Black ice slippery. Lucy fell and couldn't get up. Everytime she tried she was overwhelmed by dizziness and nausea—and pain. When her son and another hiker were finally able to help her to a rock where she could sit, the pain subsided. But walking down was not possible–the pain was too intense whenever she moved. Her son went down to the refuge to get help. By the time he got back, a helicopter was hovering nearby. EMTs carried Lucy by stretcher. But her son couldn't come with her. Moreover, he had to complete the hike back to the rental car.

    Lucy was helicoptered down, transferred to an ambulance and taken to a hospital. Not only was she worried about the pain in her leg and hip, she was worried about her son making the long hike by himself without a cell phone–they had left their phones in the car. A nurse at the hospital called her son's cell phone to let him know where his mother was. When mother and son were finally reunited, the doctors at the hospital had figured out what was wrong: The femur was broken. Lucy needed surgery to put it back together again–either in California or at home on the east coast.

    That's where Lucy's other grown chidlren come in. Her son called his sister, who is a doctor, who talked to the doctor at the hospital about what they planned to do, why and where it should be done (in California or at home). He then called his other sister who lived in Hong Kong to let her know what was happening. The sister knows a lot about travel–she does a lot of it for her job. She knew exactly how she could help: She used her frequent flyer miles to have Lucy's travel status upgraded to first class for her post-surgery flight home. As to Lucy's son, he stayed with her, taking his meals at the hospital with her and watching TV with her –the summer Olympics were on–for the four days until she could leave. When he finally got her home, Lucy says, "I'm sure he was glad to be rid of me." True or not, he had been there when it counted, and so were her other children–doing whatever they could do to make things go smoother and better for their mother.

            LInda's experience was more mundane. Her husband, Dave, was about to undergo open heart surgery. With no warning–he had simply changed doctors and the new doctor insisted on a cardiogram for all new patients–he went from a man who seemed to be slowing down naturally to one who had a life-threatening situation hanging over him. Linda's son –her husband's stepson — started researching and adding to the information Linda and Dave were gathering about doctors, types of surgery [robotic or hands-on], which hospitals were best. It was a comfort to have his suggestions and informed opinions at a time when it's difficult to think straight–and you absolutely need to. Dave's son [Linda's stepson] flew in for the surgery, to be with his father and keep Linda company. When Dave was finally home from the hospital, Linda was feeling depressed and shut in–Dave couldn't be left alone; progress was measured by the one or two minutes he could sit up in bed. Her son had a suggestion: send out an email to the rest of the family and friends who live nearby and ask for an hour of their time so she could get out each day. Worked like a charm. Linda would probably have thought of a similar approach for a friend, but when we're in the midst of a crisis, it helps to have someone else thinking about solutions to the day-to-day problems. And who better than her son.

     

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

     My friend Cathy's middle son graduates from a local college in May but he has a lease on an apartment that runs through August 1–at a cost of $1,000 a month for his share of the rent. Cathy has made it clear that he should find a sublet for his room and move back home to save the family the $2,000 in rent. Her son has countered that he doesn't want to live at home. She told him that was too bad but "we can't afford the rent and neither can you." He repeated his argument: "I don't want to live at home."

    It's at this point in her "he said/she said" story that she tells me, "He'll probably tap his dad for the money. [The dad] can't afford it either but his pride will kick in and he'll do it."       

    Cathy does not say this with admiration for her husband. All through their child-rearing years this has been the pattern: She takes a tough stand on financial matters and he's a soft touch. It drives Cathy crazy.

    She might find comfort in a recent Ameriprise survey, Money Across Generations II that reflects her family's dynamics: It found that mothers are more likely to chat with their grown kids about money, but the dad is more likely to dole out the cash–for certain things. The "certain things?" Anything having to do with a car.

    Here are the numbers: Of the 93 percent of baby boomers who say they’ve provided financial
    support to their adult children, 58 percent of fathers (versus 48 percent of mothers) have helped by putting up cash for a car; 51 percent of dads (versus 43 percent of moms) have
    paid for their grown kid’s car insurance; and 37 percent of fathers (versus 29 percent of mothers) helped with car payments.

    There was one outlier: 42 percent of dads (versus 32 percent of moms) co-signed a loan or lease agreement.

    Cold comfort, but there you have it: Dad's are likely to pony up the cash, especially if it has anything to do with a car or their adult child's ability to live on their own. The mom: She gets to talk about why she's saying No.

     

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