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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    Our grown children are several years into their marriages, but who can forget some of the conflicts during the planning stage of their nuptials. Tensions run high, so do feelings about what is right, proper, best, appropriate. Friends of ours got off to a rocky start with their new daughter-in-law when they tried to insist that their daughter's toddler be invited to the wedding–even after their son and his bride explained that they saw the evening wedding as an adult affair, not one to which children would be invited. And then there are friends who wanted the wedding venue–a white clapboard church on a hill in the bride's home town–moved to a non-religious setting so a rabbi could co-officiate. Never mind that the bride had always dreamed of marrying in the neighborhood church and that their son didn't care who officiated at the wedding, so long as his wife-to-be was happy.

    When I saw that Sheila Heen–a conflict solver who has penned such books as, "Difficult Conversations: How to discuss what matters most"–posted a column on the New York TImes entitled Parents at a Wedding, I thought I'd check it out and see if there were insights to share with other parents of brides and grooms.

    There were. Our job, she seems to say, is to de-escalate tension and be supportive–no matter what. Easier said than done. The two reader-questions she addresses in her post are quite different. One bride was alarmed that her divorced parents weren't communicating with each other and that her stepmother was trying to step into the role of 'equal mother.' The other came from parents whose daughter was marrying her partner, another woman, and an aunt and uncle were refusing to attend the same-sex wedding. While Heen's answers were specific to the issues at hand, there were also some generalities that we all—when and if we're parents of a bride or groom–might keep in mind.

    –Heen notes that a theologian had told her, “Planning a wedding is a microcosm of the marriage itself. All the things the couple is going to fight about or struggle with – money, disagreements, family dynamics – are at the heart of the wedding planning process.” It also sets up all the things we may struggle with in developing an adult-to-adult relationship with the couple. The way wedding-planning disputes are settled, Heen sugggests, establishes expectations about how the new couple will handle their families' conflicting interests. So there's more at stake than whether we walk the bride down the aisle or all our cousins are invited. 

    –As to the no-show uncle at a same-sex wedding, there's nothing that spoils the day for parents than a slight to their child. Heen reminds us–the parents–not to escalate the tension. Whatever the cause of the slight, "what the daughter needs is continuing support from her parents and continuing efforts over time to encourage positive contact with the no-show relatives….What won’t help is to respond to your sense of judgment from them with judgment of them. That will cause everyone to retreat in hurt and anger."

    Caveat parentus. Keep your eye on the prize–a healthy future relationship with your children and their spouses–and the spouses parents.

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

      Graduation was 8 months ago, but my friend C's son is still living at home and still delivering pizza–despite a B.A. in international studies and an impressive grade point average at a respected state university. It may or may not be bothering her son, but it is causing C all kinds of anxiety. It's an anxiety that gets no relief from information, since information about the job search is not available.

    "I have tried to stop asking because it doesn't go well," she says. "The least question about jobs or graduate school is met with massive resistance. He must be worried."

    And that's what really worries C.

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

                        

    Aside from our promises to ourselves to shape up (exercise more, eat smarter) and spread joy (smile more), there are some New Years resolutions we can make vis a vis our role as parents of adult children. I've borrowed the suggestions below from an impeccable source: Carl Pickhardt who writes about parenting adolescents for Psychology Today. From his list of "beneficial efforts" parents and adolescents can make with themselves and each other, some seem right on for those of us whose children are in the post-grad world or moving even further along the maturity path.

    You can read all 23 of his resolutions here. I've cherry picked six that seem just right for parents of grown children. (Some of them reflect the ideals in my Notes to Self, which you can check out in the list in the left column.)

    –GIVE A LISTEN. The gift of listening is letting someone know they’re worth your time and undivided attention and are not alone. HEAR WHAT THE OTHER PERSON HAS TO SAY.

    –CHECK SUPPOSITIONS OUT. False assumptions about what each other may be thinking, feeling, or intending can lead to serious misunderstandings. BEFORE REACTING, ASK WHAT IS GOING ON.

    –BE CONTENT. Go after what you want if that is what you want, but don’t make getting all you want a condition for feeling happy. FOR EVERYONE, SOME HAS TO BE ENOUGH.

     –GO WITH THE FLOW. If you can’t alter events or circumstances you wish were not so, learn to live with what you’ve got and make the best of it you can. ADAPT TO WHAT YOU CANNOT CHANGE.

    — MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. Unless the other person is harming themselves or you or someone else, are ignorant of consequences their choices bring, or want help, don’t interfere. LET EACH OTHER BE.

    –FORGIVE. Holding on to anger toward yourself or others is punishing to do. Relieve the burden of guilt or resentment with forgiveness. LET HARD FEELINGS GO.

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    Happy willa

    In the middle of a four-way coffee get together of my former office mates, one of the coffee drinkers passed around the photos of her first Grand–a very cute baby who's now two months old and belongs to her son. After a pleasant few minutes of oohing and aahing, our former office mate talked about driving her grown daughter to the airport–her daughter lives in a city down the coast from her parents and her brother. The daughter had come to town to be there for the birth of her first nephew.

    On the drive, my friend tells the three of us, her husband announced he wanted to ask his daughter, who is in her 30s, single and self supporting, a personal question. My friend says she clutched for a minute–what could he want to bring up? His question: After being here for the birth of her brother's child, did it make her want to have children?

    Her answer was a simple 'no." She said she had never particularly wanted to have children and though her nephew was adorable, cuddly and the most wonderful baby ever, she didn't want one of her own. She said she knows what it takes to be a good parent and she didn't feel that was a road she wanted to take. And now, with her brother having brought a child into the world and into the family, she felt relief: the pressure was off to reproduce.

    How did my friend feel about that? It can be disappointing for a parent to here her–or his–child is not going to participate in the warmth and charm of growing her own family. "I wasn't surprised," my friend says, and then offers this kicker: "What I am is happy that she lives at a time when she has alternatives, when she doesn't feel she has to have children to be validated–the way my generation and my mother's generation did."

    We who grew up in those 'bad old times,' can only add our Amen–grateful though we are to have the children we have. It doesn't mean we didn't feel an unseemly pressure to have children–pressure from our parents,from society at large and probably from ourselves as well.

    Although Tina Fey talks about the pressure to have a second child in her essay Confessions of a Juggler: What’s the rudest question you can ask a mother?, (in her book BossyPants)  her point rings true for women who opt out of becoming mothers.  Fey describes the constant questioning–from friends, acquaintances, store clerks and the like, about whether or not she'll have another child. Her answer to an issue that produces personal angst suggests that the decision is an on-going and ever-mutating one. Fey writes: "My parents raised me never to ask people about their reproductive plans. 'You don’t know their situation,' my mother would say. I considered it such an impolite question for years I didn’t even ask myself.”

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    Piggybank

    So the kids have made their way through college. They're launched into the world of work and creating their own families. We're still their parents, of course, but the financial part is over. We can now center our financial plans around us and our retirement needs. At least that's what we're thinking.

    Think again. Turns out that for many of us, that was an incorrect assumption.  A Merrill Lynch Retirement Study, conducted in partnership with Age Wave, finds that 62 percent of those of us older than 50 have provided financial assistance–a helping hand–to family members during the last five years and that most of us never budgeted to do so.

    A few other points from the report ("Family & Retirement: The Elephant in the Room.")

    Payback: Those helping family members rarely do so because they expect future help or financial payback. Older adults are 20x more likely to say they are helping family because “it is the right thing to do” than because “family members will help me in the future.” They are 5x more likely to stop family support because the recipient is not using the money wisely than because of worries about being paid back.

    –The Now Factor: Those giving money to family members are 3x more likely to feel “appreciated” than “taken advantage of.” This generational generosity also extends to a shift in mindset regarding inheritance and giving to family. Three in five (60%) people age 50+ say it is better to pass on their assets now rather than waiting until end of life. Age 50+ women are even more likely than men to say it is better to pass on inheritance during retirement (65% vs. 53%).

    –Favorite Subsidies: We tend to help out our adult children by paying for rent or mortgage payments, insurance, cellphone bills, car purchases or leases and tuition expenses. These subsidies averaged a total of $9,200 over the past five years among people with less than $250,000 in investible assets, and $19,100 for people with between $250,000 and $500,000 in investible assets. Among the very wealthy (those with more than $5,000,000 in investible assets), the average five-year family outlay was $313,000.

    –The Stepkids: Adults age 50+ generally feel some financial responsibility for stepfamily members (most particularly stepchildren), but usually less responsibility than they feel for biological relatives. That said, three in ten (32%) also say that they and their spouses have different financial priorities for their own children than they have for their stepchildren. Those with stepchildren are less likely to divide their assets equally than those without stepchildren.

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

     A friends son and daughter stopped speaking to each other. It lasted more than a year. It wasn't just talk. They refused to come to the same Thanksgiving meal together–a meal my friend prepares for a large group that includes her two other children, their spouses and children.

    One of her sons tried to mediate a peace. Her husband tried talking to each of them. No luck. The offended daughter even approached her offending brother to spell out her complaint against him. It only made matters worse.

    Though the siblings have since come to terms with each other, I thought about my friend and the bad blood that existed between two of her children when I came across a Sheila Heen column on Family Grudges. I've been reading a lot of Heen recently (more on that in another post). She's got some very commonsensical suggestions on how to work around family conflicts. After reading her recent column, I sent it off to my friend. It turns out, her kids–as well as my friend and her husband and their other children–had been taking the wrong tack.

    Heen's suggestions for working through a grudge match start with a Do Not Do. Specifically, do not write a letter or email spelling out your perspective–or even apologizing for something you may have done wrong.

    Sounds counter-intuitive, but here's Heen's rational: "Inevitably some aspect of what you describe will feel “off” to them (“That’s not what happened!”) or will leave out parts that they feel are most important. And their interpretation of your motives for writing the letter is colored by emotion. Your desire to reconnect is seen as a desire to absolve yourself of guilt, to manipulate, or to appear to be righteously taking the high road….Remember that email and letters aren’t dialogue. They’re monologue. And they’re the channel of communication that can escalate conflict most quickly."

    So what can you do to ease the path of reconciliation? Here are some of Heen's basic approaches, which can be adapted by an interested parenting hoping to give grown children a chance to reconcile–or to make peace with a begrudging child:

    Strategy 1: Don’t talk, just do. Often family members cut off contact not because they like conflict, but because they hate conflict. Avoiding the stress seems most easily done by avoiding the people who produce the stress….Sometimes, depending on the personalities involved, the best approach is to avoid the “big conversation” altogether, and just to start acting “normal” again.

    Strategy 2: Propose a conversation just about the future. Sometimes it’s not worth sorting through the details of who did what and reacted to what. It may simply be that you want to propose talking about how to move on.

    Strategy 3: Initiate a conversation to understand the rift. Let them know that you’d like to talk. Not so that you can talk them out of their feelings or their behavior, but so that you can better understand what’s happened between you. …In that conversation, first listen to them. Why? Because people simply do not take in what you have to say, cannot question or shift their perceptions, until they feel understood. To get meaningful communication moving, someone has to be the first to listen and that someone is going to have to be you.

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    A host of brochures are spread out on my desk. I'm looking for just the right gift for the Grands. One of my favorites: Give a Goat, courtesy Oxfam. Would or would they not be charmed by giving children in another–and less developed–part of the world a cute cuddly animal that could also support and feed them and their family?

    The goat wasn't the only child-appealing possibility. Another charity was offering to send a heifer in my Grand's name to a child in a third world country. 

                           

    My Grands are among the very fortunates of this world who have almost everything they need, want or could dream of. I thought they would be intrigued with the story of how the animals would become part of a family–and help them understand how life is lived in other parts of the world.

    Turns out, I am part of a burgeoning trend: using gifts as a means of opening our Grand's eyes to the world–especially to the needs of those who live in economies that are not as fruitful as ours. It is also in keeping with a story that ran recently in the New York Times about grandparents giving their grandchildren the gift of financial awareness.

    The NYTimes story was about a more sophisticated concept–teaching the grandkids about financial literacy. Most grandparents, the article argues, have an advantage over parents: They can talk more freely with their grandchildren and, in return, their grandchildren tend to open up to them.

    So how do you do it? If you don't want to read the full story, here are the how-to highlights:

    One grandparent gave his grandchildren “money savvy pigs,” which were created to show children the four uses of money: save, spend, donate and invest. He asked them to divide their allowances into the four categories and then talked to them about their decisions. Eventually, he introduced the idea of giving away some of the money in the donate bank by introducing his grandkids to various catalogues and brochures for helping people in developing countries–such as a flock of chickens, mosquito nets or vocational training. When one of his Grands didn't have enough money to buy what she wanted to donate–a latrine for a neighborhood that didn't have clean water–the grandfather suggested she write to family members who might want to donate to her cause.

    A less formal approach might be to start a conversation about the difference between a need and a want. Or, create a financial memory bank by talking about how you [the grandparent] struggled or failed, what your first car or house cost and the like.

    The main point to remember is to clear what you're doing with the parents. Ultimately, it’s up to your grown kids to be involved in teaching their children about money. What we, the grandparents, can do is strengthen their message–which, presumably, they learned from us in the first place.

     

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

     

    Conversation overheard two days before Thanksgiving:

    First woman [who lives in Florida and has come north to see grownkids/grandkids}. "I flew into New York City to see Jacob [grandson] in a recital but the rest of the time I just ran errands for everyone–picking stuff up here, taking someone there. Now I'm here [Washington, D.C.] to see my son and his family and all I'm doing is running errands."

    Second woman [who lives in Washington as do her grown children and Grands]: "I know what you mean. If my kids asked me to run out into the street and stop traffic, I'd do it."

    Neither one's tone suggested they were complaining. To the contrary, there was a little bit of preening, an edge of braggadocio.

    Truth be told, I wasn't an idle eavesdropper to this conversation. These were two acquaintances chatting away–as I pulled on my coat and gathered my belongings. I was on my way to the airport, to catch a plane to join my grown son and his family for the holiday. Paterfamilias and I were heading there, as usual, two days before the family festivities. The theory: not only would we miss the worst of congested Thanksgiving travel, but all the work of preparing the turkey feast wouldn't fall on my daughter-in-laws shoulders. We would be there in time to help with, yes, errands. 

    What is it about errands for our grown kids and their family: Are we hoping to make life easier or more pleasant for them–save them a few steps here and there. Are we proving our value. Or just giving ourselves a pat on the back for being so supportive and wonderful.

    And why do we chit-chatter on about the errand running. Do we do it to tell each other how useful we are to our children, to make ourselves feel needed, to let our friends and acquaintances know how busy and successful our children are–and how we are helping make that possible.

    Or are we just talking about doing something our parents did for us: Seeing a need and filling it. A family tradition–for the holidays and beyond.

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

     

    This is not the first time I've shared one of Carl Pickhardt's insights on parenting adolescents. Many of his points apply to parenting emerging adults–those just out of their teens but not quite into full-blown adulthood. But his recent newsletter's point applies to all: When it comes to parenting adolescent or adult children, lighten up.  "Parenting is too serious to take every frustration seriously," he writes, "because when parents do that they are likely to overreact and make minor matters worse."

    Pickhardt makes his point through an anecdote that shows how the parent (a father) was able to lighten up enough to keep from losing his temper over a test that pitted his request for action (a variation on clean up your room) versus the son's persistent postponement of doing anything about it. When our children are adolescents living under our roof, these kinds of issues come up all the time. But even when they are "emancipated," we can come up against a test of wills, an unwillingness to take our "suggestions" seriously or stop behaving in a way we deem inappropriate. At such times, the light touch is even more important: we're no longer the boss.

    Here's a link to Pickhardt's newsletter and for those who don't want to go there, a recounting of the anecdote and a quickie synopsis of Pickhardt's analysis of what was going on here.

    The anecdote: "My fifteen-year-old just took a shower and there they are where he always leaves them: wet towels all over the bathroom floor. ‘Would you please hang up the towels,’ I ask? ‘Sure,’ he cheerfully replies. And I wait for what I know is coming next: ‘In a minute.’

    “I mean it’s not like I haven’t been through this torment before—like about a million times. So I wait an hour to check the bathroom, and everything’s okay. No one has disturbed the towels. They’re resting nicely and probably so is he. So I poke my head into his room and remind him: ‘The towels. You said you’d pick up the towels.’

    “He looks at me and shakes his head like he was the long suffering parent and I was the troublesome child. ‘I wish you’d make up your mind,’ he says. ‘I’m doing my homework. You’re always after me to do my homework. Can I do my homework without being interrupted?’

    “Don’t ask me how he does it, but now I’m feeling on the defensive. ‘After you finish your homework you’ll pick them up?’ He just shakes his head like I’m some kind of defective and he doesn’t know how he puts up with me. ‘Yes. Yes. Yes. Now can I get back to work?’ I feel like I’m imposing, so I leave.

    “Two hours later the towels (remember the towels?) are still where he dropped them and I find him watching TV. Now I have him dead to rights. This is indefensible, so I say: ‘If you have time to watch TV, you have time to pick up the towels.’ This is when he gives me this pained look: ‘Once a week, is that asking too much? Once a week I get to see my favorite program. The only one I care to watch. I’ve done my homework like you wanted. Now, can I watch my program? As soon as it’s over, I’ll get the towels.’ Well, he did get his homework done. ‘Okay,’ I say. ‘But right after it’s over, the towels. No more excuses.’ He nods agreement and impatiently dismisses me with a long suffering wave of his hand.

    “An hour and a half later I can’t believe it. The towels haven’t been touched. I storm off to his room. His light is out. ‘The towels!’ I yell into the dark. ‘What? What’s the matter?” a groggy voice asks as though I’d woken him up? But I stand my ground. ‘The towels,’ I repeat. Silence. ‘You woke me up to talk about towels?’ he asks, implying that if there is something wrong, it’s certainly not with him. ‘You’re always after me to get in bed on time. To get enough rest. And now you wake me up for this? For towels? Can’t I get them in the morning?’ I’m tired too. ‘You promise?’ I ask. ‘I promise,’ he says. ‘Now can I get some sleep?’

    “Next morning, there he is about to leave for school when I notice the towels from last night have been joined by more towels from today’s shower. That’s when I lose it. I scream as though I’d been betrayed, which is how I feel: ‘Your promise! What about your promise?’

    “You should have seen the look of utter disbelief on his face. ‘You want me to miss the bus? You want me to be late for school? For towels? Which is more important: towels or school?’ Fortunately, for once in my life I made the right decision: ‘School? The heck with school! FIRST, YOU PICK UP THOSE TOWELS!’”

    So according to the long-suffering father described above, the young man did finally retrieve the towels, except for the sodden one either overlooked or subversively left underneath the bathroom sink, perhaps as a reminder that the Game was still on.

    “Five out of six is not a bad average” the dad smilingly concluded. Then, feeling delayed but apparently not defeated, he laughed: “Back to work!” He was resolved to pursue picking up the one remaining towel as the ongoing battle for and against timely compliance continued to run its seemingly eternal course.

    The father who told Pickhardt the story was, Pickhardt says, "really [telling] a story on himself—laughing at his predicament and his own reactions, grudgingly admiring his son’s spirit of opposition. Not taking the problem personally, he used humor to create perspective…"

    Do the towels apply to our insistence on being called or notified about events in our adult (or emerging adult) children's lives, or their promises to visit or, if they've moved back home, doing the chores we've asked them to do as part of the bargain of living under our roof again? Personally, whenever I feel a nag coming on, I'm going to think "towels!"

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  • PARENTING GROWN CHILDREN: The children may be grown but we still have our issues.

    A few posts ago, I wrote about a young woman who found her mother-in-law "too nice." The issue, as Carolyn Hax pointed out in her column, was whether the 'niceness" was a cover for manipulative, over-protective and intrusive behavior. Helicoptering carried to its highest level: an inability to let go.

    Hax, in her column-writing wisdom, suggested the young woman read Gavin De Becker's The Gift of Fear–to better understand her mother-in-law and deal with the manipulation problem.

    Don't know if the daughter-in-law read it, but I did–not to fend off a persistently meddlesome parent but to see if I saw myself in De Becker's descriptions of the controlling parent, sibling, or in-law who can't let go.

    Of course I did not find myself there. Who would connect with the difficult –almost "call the cops"–personalities De Becker describes in his chapter, "Persistence, Persistence." That said, based on his chapter, here are some of the warning signs of overly-persistant personalities who can't take lift their finger off the control button.

    –refusing to hear 'no'–that is, perceiving "maybe" as "definitely."

    –projecting onto others committments that were not expressed and are not present–or are unwanted.

    –demanding attention. or put another way, refusing to be ignored and using guilt, harrassment or insults to make sure attention is paid.

    –insisting on constant communication despite requests to back off.

    –exhibiting an extraordinary sense of entitlement

    If you ever had to deal with someone like this, De Becker's book can help you figure out a strategy for making the relationship less painful–or at least give you some control over it, which is where Carolyn Hax' was sending her reader.

     

     

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