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© Penelope Lemov and Parenting Grown Children, 2025. Unauthorized use and/or duplication of this material without express and written permission from this site’s author and/or owner is strictly prohibited. Excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given.

Christmas dinner at his daughter's house: Dick was surrounded by his wife, grandchildren, son-in-law, stepsons and their families. What could be warmer and nicer for the holidays? For those of us at a certain age, plenty.

Dick says that as everyone moved from the living room to the dining room for dinner, he sat down on the sofa and brooded. Am I still needed? he asked himself. As a business man (retired but doing volunteer work with a small business advisory group), Dick had been there to advise his son, son-in-law, daughter, and stepsons on their career moves–on getting started, on moving up the corporate or other ladders. Now that they were well on their way, they had reached a point where they knew more about where they were than he did. Never good at small talk, he felt left out of the general chit chat going back and forth between and among his grown children. "I didn't see where I fit in. I wouldn't say I felt irrelevant. I would say I felt almost irrelevant."

To put in perspective the feelings that flooded him that Christmas night, Dick says it has been harder to take than some of the physical diminishments he has experienced as he has gotten older–no longer having the same endurance or strength he had as a 60-year-old man who rode his bike for 50 miles or more on a Sunday outing. Illness and age have taken a toll (20 miles is the new comfort level).  But he says he feels that diminishment of strength less keenly than the loss of his role as the wise head of a many-branched family. As far as he is concerned, the grownchildren have outgrown their need for his advice. "I brought them up to be independent," he says. And now they are.

Who knew success would feel so empty?

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3 responses to “Holidays with Grown Children: More on that outsider feeling”

  1. SureUcan Avatar

    I can relate totally. I am feeling shut out of my adult children’s lives. One daughter recently told me that she has her sister to talk to about adopting a baby and also her husband. So, that’s why she doesn’t talk to me about it — she doesn’t really want to hear what I’d have to say. She didn’t realize how she sounded, but it stung right down to my heart. One of our daughters lives an hour away, but we’re always the ones initiating relationship. “Well, we raised them to be independent,” my husband says. We succeeded at that. Quite an empty feeling.

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  2. Pauline Whitelaw Avatar
    Pauline Whitelaw

    I could not agree more about no longer being needed. When my children were growing up I believed in “give them roots and give them wings” and “a Mother is not for leaning on, a Mother is to make leaning unnecessary” It was only when they had all grown up and left without a backward glance (or so it seemed) to get on with their lives I realized that what I had always thought I wanted was not quite what I expected. They are all managing very well without any input from me and I rarely see any of them and my grandchildren unless I am willing to travel thousands of miles.

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    pauline
    Like you, my children live hundreds of miles away and it is harder [and much more expensive] for them to pack their kids up and come visit us than it is for us to go see them. so we go. otherwise we would be left out of the jiys abnd challenges of being part of our grandchildren’s lives. the price of “success” is high.

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